Miniature Radios

Last Modified: Thu, Apr 17, 2008

Contents: Basics; Important Caveats; Ic-7000; Kenwood TS-480; Yaesu FT-450; Common Problems; Voltage Problems; Used Gear Boon; Menus & Options; What To Do About Heat; Headsets; Accessory Jacks; Odds & Ends;

Basics

The first HF mobile transceiver I ever used was a Heathkit HW32, 20 meter monobander. It was approximately 12" wide, 8" high, and 14"deep including the back panel connections. In addition, there was the power supply which I mounted on the right kicker panel. Nowadays, the transceivers are smaller than the old Heathkit power supply.

I digress. Back during the late 70s when I worked for CW Electronics in Denver, I had an opportunity to meet Dr. Inoue, the founder on Icom. This was just after the introduction of the IC701, one of the first truly all-solid-state, synthesized transceivers. He ask me what I thought Icom should make. I told him I'd like to see an HF transceiver small enough to fit into a DIN-sized slot in the dashboard. I'm sure my comments didn't influence him one way or the other. However, large-scale use of LSI and surface mounting technologies certainly did. In fact, the Icom 706 can easily fit inside a DIN slot with room to spare.

Although there are several other miniaturized mobile transceivers, Yaesu and Kenwood both make one, Icom has the market with nearly 75% saturation. Although what I say here is pointed toward the Icom, in general the topics are applicable to the other brands on the market.

There are several drawbacks to miniaturization. The controls are also miniaturized making it difficult for large fingered folks to do the adjusting, which says nothing about doing it while under way. The front panel real estate is at a premium which means some controls serve multiple purposes and readouts become difficult to see. All of this requires the use of menus further frustrating the average user. There are some technical drawbacks which I'll cover later on.

However, they have lots of advantages. Most all of the new miniaturized transceivers are remotable. That is to say, the control head and the main part of the transceiver can be separated, and in some cases up to 20 feet away. If you do remote yours, read this.

The control head is light weight and small in size, which makes mounting easy. The rest of the transceiver can be mounted out of the way under a seat or even in the trunk. Trunk mounting adds complexity to the DC and control wiring, but is preferred in most cases. So it all seems like a win-win situation. But is it?

One of the drawbacks to miniaturization is heat dissipation. Heat is the bane of solid state electronics, and it can be a problem in mobile installations. In the case of the IC-706 (and others) there is a heat sink fan. This fan can and does run during receive, and anytime the transceiver is in transmit. While it is not very noisy it does increase the power draw by about 1 amp.

Important Caveats

While this section is pointed towards the Icom IC-706 series, and the new IC-7000, the caveats can be applied to almost every miniature radio sold.

The port on the rear apron of the IC-7000 designed to interface with the AH-4 auto coupler is configured differently than the IC-706 series. Pin 1 (TKEY) input is shared internally with the temperature control circuitry. This pin MUST be left floating. If it isn't, the fan may not come on as required, which can lead to failure of the final transistors!

If you own, or plan to purchase, an Icom IC-7000, please read this paragraph carefully. Devices used to mimic the AH-4, and trick the IC-706 into transmitting 10 watts of carrier are not compatible with the IC-7000. This includes the suggested circuitry from SGC, at least one of the older model screwdriver controllers, and most small tuner modules. In other words, just because it appears to work correctly, it might not. Before using any interface designed for an Icom IC-706, ask the manufacturer if it is fully compatible with an Icom IC-7000.

The only US made one known to work correctly is from BetterRF, and designed specifically for the IC-7000. Their older IC-706 model is not compatible. There is also an Australian one designed by Owen Duffy, VK1OD, which is compatible. If you are using one of Bob Lewis' (AA4PB) Ham-Kit interfaces for the SGC couplers, remove R1 (33k) entirely, as it is not needed.

It is also important to mention the power handling capability of both the tuner port and the accessory socket. A lot of after-market devices, including some screwdriver controllers, antenna tuners, and digital interfaces, use the tuner port (or Accessory socket) for power. Icom states you can draw power up to one amp from pin 8 of the accessory port. Although no specs are published about the current draw from pin 3 of the tuner port, most folks assume up to one amp is okay as this is what the AH-4 draws when it's tuning.

Both of these ports are fused (4 amps for the 706, and 5 amps for the 7000), and both are switched on and off by a switching transistor and/or a small relay. If you short either of these ports to ground, there are three failure scenarios.

First, the fuse will blow which doesn't happen often. Secondly, the switching transistor will fail (usually open). And lastly, and most likely, the circuit board trace will melt. The latter two failures are costly ones to repair.

Further, the voltage drop across these ports with a one amp load imposed on them, is just over 1 volt less than the supply voltage. While this might be okay for short durations like the tuning cycle of an AH-4 or other tuner using the port for power, long term draw means that 13 watts or so of heat is being absorbed by the radio's circuitry.

I'm of the opinion that if you need the radio to supply switched power to an ancillary device, that you use a properly buffered relay to do the task.

I've also discovered, the hard way, that the rear panel jacks on the 7000 are surface mounted. Even a minor bump can dislodge them from their circuit board. In my case, just a small, dropped screwdriver did the trick.

It takes about 2 hours to fix because you have to R&R the main board too. Assuming, of course, that you're adept at working on surface mounted devices, that you have the tools to do so, and the circuit board hasn't been damaged. Luckily, mine wasn't. If you're not adept, this is a costly repair (about $150). Forewarned is forearmed, so even if you have the main unit hidden under a seat, protect the rear apron from impact.

Icom IC-7000

I've put the Icom IC-7000 under its own heading for a very good reason. It has innovations that place it a head above the competition in many ways. Aside from its advanced IF DSP, Icom has done a good job of answering the common complaints with respect to menu selection and the buttons used there in. It is slightly smaller in length than the 706, has a color display, a built-in speech synthesizer, and enough memories for to keep anyone happy. The street price is $1,499 which is a bargain considering its overall capabilities. The remote kit is $110. I believe it will prove to be more popular than the 706, its street price notwithstanding.

The power cable is different than any other Icom radio, and there isn't a dedicated power supply or an adaptor cable to connect it to an PS120 (the factory power supply for every other amateur radio Icom makes). This is a drawback until one or the other (or both) become available. The fuses have been moved to the far end of the power cable where they belong. Since I don't like having extra wire bundled up, I modified mine by carefully removing the factory fuse holders, and reinstalling them closer to the radio. This modification might not be necessary in every installation.

Speaking of mods, unless you're adapt to working on micro-sized surface mounted devices, I wouldn't attempt it to do the extended coverage mod (or the video mod). If you do, the band edge warning beeps no longer work.

If you do the video mod, the first thing you'll notice is the poor video quality. The fact the video receiver is analog, and analog broadcasts will soon cease under fed mandate, it seems like a waste of time.

A lot of amateurs are adding video input devices to their Navi units as a means of displaying the front panel. It works, but if the display is larger than 7 inches, the lettering starts to be rather blotchy looking. If you're in the market for a Navi video adapter, I suggest you look at the TV&Nav2Go system. It retails for $225 plus shipping, or about half what competing brands sell for. It's a small box about 4 inches square, and about 1 inch thick. The instructions are nearly worthless, but the unit is so simple it isn't difficult to install. Just remember to solder the green wire to its companion ground, and not to the parking brake as indicated. It requires 13.8 VDC even if you aren't using it to display the from panel, but since it draws just a few mils on standby, you can leave it permanently connected. It supports a backup camera too, and models for just about any Navi are available.

Pin three of the microphone jack used to be audio out which allowed the use of a headset like the Heil Traveler®. On the IC-7000, pin three is a sense for the HM-151 microphone supplied with the radio. Since the IC-7000 has internal solder pads incorporated in the microphone circuitry, it is possible to change the microphone configuration to that of the IC-706, where as Pin 3 becomes an audio out. Icom does not mention this in their Owners Manual, but the pads are clearly shown in the Service Manual and the included schematic. Be advised, there may be a warranty issue if you do change the pads.

The HM-151 microphone has another drawback, in that you cannot send live touch tones. You have to use one of the four presets. This makes accessing autopatches, IRLP, echolinks, and megalinks much more difficult and restrained.

If you use an Icom 2KL amplifier, or an Icom AT-500 tuner, or one of the many after-market devices which use the band select voltage for control, you'll have to open up the radio and solder a jumper to activate it. I removed the cover to look at the pad, and I can tell you it won't be easy to do. The fact that Icom states in their owners manual, "Performing this modification is the customers responsibility. Icom does not guarantee the modifications results" speak volumes!

Kenwood TS-480

One of the latest entries is the Kenwood TS-480, which comes in two iterations; a 100 watt version with a built in auto coupler, and a 200 watt version without the coupler. I call the latter a poor man's linear, as no other mobile radio offers this much power.

The head and the main body cannot be connected together. In other words, it's mounting is remote only. And, as with other Kenwood transceivers, the microphone plugs into the main unit, not the head. The cables (control and microphone) have pre-installed split beads to minimize RFI problems.

Calling it a miniature radio is a bit of a misnomer. It's approximately 7 x 2.5 x 10 inches, and weighs in at just over 8 pounds. Its DSP is AF based, but Kenwood has done a decent job of designing out some of the problems that have plagued most AF based DSPs. There are optional filters available, and if used mobile the 1.8 SSB filter is almost a necessity. The others are a 500 Hz and 270 Hz CW filters.

Speaking of optional devices, here's a good suggestion. Order the optional VGS-1 voice guide and storage unit. Like the Icom IC-7000, it reads out all of the vital settings in the radio, and it also allows recording up to 90 seconds (3 x 30 seconds) of audio. The audio can be used to record, and play back any transmission, as well as CQ and CW messages. It is well worth the $80 it sells for.

Another option is the cable extension kit, which might be needed in some installations. Rather than try to use CAT5 cables and other shortcuts, buy the real deal. If you don't, you'll be plagued by RFI problems.

The funny looking serrated plate shown in the photo is the mobile mounting bracket for the head, which is attached with double-sided sticky tape. In my opinion, this is a drawback, but users say it stays put. If you use this type of mounting, remember this: Some automotive surfaces can be damaged and/or stained by the tape. Wherever you mount it, make sure is well out of reach of any SRS device. That virtually rules out the top of the dash as shown in their advertising brochures.

The 200 watt version requires two power hookups (or two separate factory power supplies if used as a base). These can be combined into one feed, but users should remember the radio draws about 40 amps, so heavy duty wiring is a necessity.

Both versions have two cooling fans, so full power, key-down operation is possible (30 minute limit, 25°C ambient). I've not heard folks complain about the noise they make when operating mobile, but to me they are a bit noisy. One thing to keep in mind, the main body of the radio requires good ventilation clearance on both ends which might negate some mounting locations, under seat for example. The Hx version also gets very warm, hot actually, in normal SSB operation, so don't be alarmed if it does.

The TS-480 sports a CAT interface similar to those on the TS-2000, and there are quite a few after-market accessories which will work with this radio. Lastly, the two coax connectors are installed on dongles, rather than hard-mounted on the chassis. This fact could be a drawback for those who R&R the transceiver regularly.

Yaesu FT-450

One of the latest entries is the Yaesu FT-450, a 160 through 6 meter, 100 watt transceiver. It's a bit large in size (9 x 3.3 x 8.5 inches), it cannot be remoted, and it doesn't have VHF capability. Whether the size and these missing features are a drawback, depends on the your needs.

It has about the same attributes most of its competitors have, including an excellent IF-based DSP. However, it has one very unique feature; a roofing filter. The 10 kHz bandwidth roofing filter is located in the first IF, right after the first mixer. This not only increases selectivity, it improves the performance of the DSP. I'm of the opinion other will follow suit with their own roofing filters, but this is a first for such a small radio.

Unlike it's little bother the FT-857, the FT-450 has a complete set of CAT commands, which makes computer interfacing a breeze. In fact, a lot of the existing Yaesu, after-market accessories which use the commands will work with this radio. Incidentally, the commands are virtually identical to those of the FT-950.

Like most current models, the cooling fan is temperature controlled, and a bit noisy when it's on high speed. The LCD display is pleasantly large, and easy to read. There is an internal auto-coupler, and mobile bracket available at extra cost.

Common Problems

The various Icom models, and most all of the other miniature radios on the market, use the same basic circuitry to control several functions. The power out, SWR, and ALC meter readings; the SWR power fold back protection; the ALC fold back protection; and the over-temperature, two-speed fan control are all part of one basic module. Aside from the fact that the built in meter's accuracy is suspect to begin with, when any of the other functions are doing their individual protection bits, the metering becomes virtually useless. For example, when the fan is running, I have seen the SWR read higher than the power out when transmitting into a dummy load. At the same time the ALC will read full scale on one band and have no indication on another. This regardless of the control settings. The long and short of this is obvious. Don't rely on the internal meter for any indication unless the transceiver is (dead) cold and the output is into a dummy load. Even then, it's suspect.

Due in part to their size, a lot of manufacturers use modular jacks and plugs for both microphone and remote cables. While they look similar to RJ45 telephone jacks and plug, they aren't! Here is some more information on Cabling.

Some radios don't have an automatic off feature, which can lead to a dead battery. The PowerWerx APO3 is the best solution to this problem. However, the APO3 is more than just a timed (0, 5, 10, 20 minutes), auto off device.

There are four pre-programmed voltages (11.8, 12.1, 12.7, 13.05 volts) settings. Properly programmed, the APO3 will turn off, and on (with some exceptions), your radio just by monitoring the battery voltage! Remember, static battery voltage is about 12.4 volts, and at least 13.5 volts when the engine is running. Since it monitors the voltage, it knows when to turn the radio off and on. There's also a 10 minute off delay which avoids unnecessary operation (cold weather, heavy accessory load, etc.).

It switches 20 amps, and can handle up to 30 amps, making it compatible with almost any radio. It comes equipped with Anderson Powerpole connectors, making wiring simple, and quick! At $60 (MSRP) it is also affordable. Visit their web site for more information.

Voltage Problems

Almost without exception, every solid state rig out there has a low voltage limit. Under this limit and the rig will reset or shut down. For the average Icom, this is 11.6 volts, which is about nominal for the rest of these small wonders. If the rig is on when you start your vehicle (usually in cold weather), the battery voltage can momentarily drop to 8 volts or less. While the duration isn't very long, it is enough to cause the aforementioned problems. I have a trunk-mounted second battery which alleviates the problem.

Another solution is to buffer the supply with a large Farad rated capacitor like those used in mobile sound systems. Units as large as 10 Farads are available. Before you run right out and buy one, there is a caveat or two to consider.

First, don't be fooled! A Farad capacitor can be very dangerous. When fully charged and subjected to a dead short, the instantaneous current can exceed 500 amps! This dictates proper fusing and wiring. Nonetheless great care should be used when charging them, so following the manufacturers instructions is imperative.

If you ever need to jump start the vehicle, remove the capacitor's fuse first! If you don't, and the capacitor gets hooked up backwards, or the input voltage rating is exceeded (+20 VDC), the capacitor will fail catastrophically. Please use extra care if you take this route.

There is another voltage related issue that should be mentioned, and that is voltage in, versus power out. At a nominal 13.8 VDC, most of the aforementioned radios will output their rated power. Lower the input voltage to 12 VDC, and none of them will. Driving them harder to make up for this loss is not the solution. I also discuss this in my VHF Options article.

Used Gear Boon

A lot of existing IC-706s are being upgraded to the IC-7000, creating a large number of used 706s. These can be bargains if you watch what you buy. Street prices should be in the neighborhood of $300, with later models with the DSP and optional filters command a little higher price, but not $700+ a lot of people think they're worth. I'd avoid older IC-706s without the DSP, unless you have a decent external DSP like an SGC ADSP2, or a similar model from Heil Sound.

There are a few of things to avoid when buying used gear. One is factory unauthorized modifications. If the unit you're thinking of buying has been moded to open up the transmit for example, my advice is simple; DON'T buy it! Further, unless you like to gamble, don't buy radios that you can't operate in person. eBay maybe all the rage these days, but before you buy read very carefully both eBay's return policy, and (especially) PayPay's return policy; they protect the seller more than the buyer.

Menus & Options

Another major drawback is the menuing system (by no means is this an Icom-only scenario). Are they intuitive? You've got to be kidding! In all fairness I must say this is a personal opinion. I'm sure some folks like the way the menus are set up. Thankfully there are so many variables it actually fulfills the desires for almost every operator. But wouldn't it be nice if they made the menus user adjustable? Of course if they did, who would be able to program it? And isn't that the point? It's hard enough now I suspect. In the final analysis the real problem is learning the menus. If the users would just take the necessary time to learn them verbatim, things would be easier. Incidentally, Nifty Accessories (see photo) has a line of mini-manuals for all of the popular mobile radios. They contain all of the programming information that the owners manuals do, but with out the size and heft. They're a great mobile tool.

I have a few suggestions for buyers of these small wonders regardless of brand. Buy the narrowest SSB filter you can buy. For the Icom IC-706, this is a 1.9 MHz (the IC-7000 uses DSP). If you're into CW, opt for the 250 Hz filter. While this may seem extreme at first glance, just remember you're not dealing with a base transceiver environment, you're dealing with a mobile environment. One in which you'll need all the signal definition you can get! One more thing. If the transceiver has an optional voice synthesizer to read out the frequency, buy it! You'll be glad you did.

One more thing every reader should keep in mind. Although these miniaturized wonders are the answer to many prayers, they can be a double edged sword. Just because they are light, small, and easily mounted, cutting corners with respect to mounting could be a disaster in waiting. In other words, just because they're small doesn't mean you should use Velcro or double-sided sticky tape to mount the various parts. Like any other object inside a moving vehicle, if it isn't tied down properly, it can become a flying missile during a crash. A missile which can cause great physical harm. It pays to take your time, and do the job correctly.

One menu item you want to avoid using, and that's compression. There are several reasons why you shouldn't, not the least of which is covered in the following section about heat. If you just can't help yourself, you best be using a headset, and that's covered below as well.

What To Do About Heat

Heat is the bane of electronic equipment. Too little heat, better yet a lack of it (read that as cold), can cause stability problems in oscillators and in some cases cause failure of a liquid crystal display (LCD). Too much heat and the life span of solid state devices fall like a rock, and LCDs to blanch out or fail altogether. In any case, it's not something most amateurs loose sleep over. However in a mobile scenario it is something we have to address.

We would all like to think that transceivers designed for mobile operation take into account the wide temperature extremes encountered. I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but this is isn't necessarily so. For example, the Icom IC-706 is rated at a usable frequency range of +14°F to +140°F. While one would think this is adequate, the fact is there are lots of places where temperatures are much lower and can be much higher too. I'll give you two specific examples.

I was in Cutbank, Montana in late 1973 and the outside temperature was -40°F. At the time I had a Heathkit tube-type transceiver. When I switched it on, nothing worked! Even with the heater on full blast, it took nearly an hour before it would receive. Ten years later I found myself in Phoenix, AZ where the temperature was 112°F. After sitting in the sun for 2 hours, the temperature inside my parked vehicle was easily over 160°F. The IC730 I was using at the time would receive, but the high-speed fan came on as soon as I hit the PTT. No permanent damage was done in either case, but there are times when these extremes can and do cause problems.

As an example, the Icom IC-706 has a built-in temperature controlled fan. It will run anytime the heatsink exceeds 160°F. If you have the transceiver mounted in the trunk under the package shelf as I once did, the heatsink will easily exceed 160°F even when the outside temperature is moderate. If you have left your IC-706 turned on and have not set the automatic off feature in the setup menu, you might come back to a vehicle with a dead battery. With the fan running, an Icom IC-706 draws nearly 5 amps and over time will drain the hardiest of batteries. While I'm referring to an Icom IC-706 here, the same can be applied to numerous other mobile transceivers regardless of brand.

Pay attention to your ALC meter reading. Any ALC indication (especially an Icom IC-706) is too much. If it starts to rise off the peg, you're driving it too hard. In either case the transceiver is in a protection mode. This situation can and does cause excessive IMD products to be generated and should be avoided.

Heat rises so it is always better to mount the main unit under a seat or on the floor of the trunk rather than under a package shelf or where the sun can shine directly on it. This will help minimize any heat related problems. Make sure you set the auto-off function as well. A delay of thirty minutes is ideal.

Any piece of electronic equipment should be well ventilated. A common mounting scheme is to use an unused DIN slot or ashtray receptacle to mount the transceiver into. This makes them convenient, but in some cases, the requisite ventilation is inadequate. Worse yet, in some vehicles this allows the heater vent to exhaust directly on to the heatsink with predictable results. In one case I'm aware of, the heatsink of a 65 watt 2 meter transceiver got hot enough to melt the plastic sides of the center console. This could have been disastrous. Thankfully it wasn't.

Mobile amplifiers get hot too. The average 500 watt PEP output solid state amp is only 50% efficient so with average speech patterns the amp is dissipating about 250 watts on transmit (SSB). This heat has to go someplace. On a recent trip I mounted an indoor/outdoor digital thermometer in the trunk of my Acura coupe. With the air conditioning on and the outside temperature hovering around 90°F, the trunk temperature was a reasonable 85°F due in part to the flow-through ventilation. While talking, the temperature rapidly increased. On two occasions it exceeded 130°F and both the IC-706 and the SG500 fans came on.

I have said many times; there is more to mobile installations than throwing the rig in the car and taking a trip. It requires safety mindfulness, forethought, diligence, attention to detail, and it takes time to do it correctly. Heat considerations are only part of the equation. You might not have ever had a problem (or were aware of one) with heat in your mobile installation. This means just one thing; Murphy hasn't discovered you're operating mobile.

Headsets

This subject is a repeat from my Safety article.

Used properly, headsets offer a level of safe operating that handheld microphones do not. Aside from the earpiece which gives peace to your passengers, the microphone is always properly placed, and ready at a moments notice. If they are noise cancelling as most headset microphones are, you can use VOX and completely free your hands. I personally don't recommend using VOX mobile, but if you must, please use a headset with a noise cancelling microphone.

Not all headsets are created equal. Modifying a telephone headset is a questionable project. The impedances are not correct, and the audio quality is substandard as a result. Proper matching is especially important for Icom radios. Heil Sound makes a mobile headset designed to perfectly match the Icom's input requirements (models are available for Yaesu, Kenwood, and many others). It has a single earpiece, an adjustable microphone boom, and a PTT button in the cord. I used my Heil Traveler® frequently around town, and it was standard fare on trips. Because of the differences in audio quality and gain offered by the Heil Traveler®, it maybe necessary to readjust your microphone gain, and perhaps the carrier offset (Icom menu G6) to achieve all of the benefits it offers. Incidentally, don't use a headset designed for a IC-706 on an IC-7000.

Another item to watch is the receive audio level. Headsets require far less amplification than speakers do. Being so close to your ear, excessive volume can and does cause hearing loss. This is especially important if you suffer from Ménière's syndrome as I do. Just as a sidelight, here is an interesting site about noise pollution.

The use of headsets brings up an important issue. In some jurisdictions, the use of a headset is illegal, or at least limited. Make sure you know what your local laws allow. In any case, never use a two earpiece headset (or earphones) for very obvious reasons.

Speaking of Heil Sound. In the very near future, Heil will be marketing the PRF BlueTooth mobile adaptor, and a new Traveler® headset headset designed to interface with it. While not inexpensive, there is no cabling to get in the way of safe driving.

Accessory Jacks

The accessory jacks in most transceivers are typically designed for ancillary equipment from the same manufacturer. In the case of the Icom 706 this could be the PW1 amp, or a AH-4 auto-coupler. They can be used for other purposes, but due caution is in order as the current limits are small. For example, the keying line (HSEND) in an Icom will only sink a maximum of 20 mils (200 mils for the IC-7000). This is inadequate for directly switching an amp. This shortcoming is also apparent in Yaesu radios. There's a voltage drop problem too. Even with no load, the output voltage will be approximately 1 V less than the actual supply voltage. Under the maximum load of 1 amp, they're nearly 2 volts less. If you're using these jacks to power ancillary equipment, due caution is necessary. If you exceed 1 amp limit, you either blow the internal fuse (it's a mess to replace), or worse burn a circuit trace. If you power an external device, it's prudent to use a small transistor driven relay with proper fusing to minimize the risks. If you're using a mobile amp, read my Amplifiers article.

There is another problem with them when the units are operated mobile; voltage stability. Unlike a regulated base power supply, mobile DC input voltage can range from 11 to over 14.2 VDC while transmitting, and the accessory output voltages vary accordingly. This fact negates the use of some of the functions. For example, Icom and Yaesu both have outputs which can be used to automatically band switch an amp (or antenna switch). Because the reference voltage and the band select voltage are unstable in mobile operation, they cannot be used for their intended purposes. Ameritron's ARI-500 remote band switching accessory uses these reference voltages, but thankfully ignores them during transmit.

Odds & Ends

The one question asked more than any other on eham.net is what radio to buy. If the visitor would do a search of the Elmers forum, they'd probably get their answer post haste. I personally have answered dozens of these type messages. While the wording my differ, the answer is always the same; don't buy a radio based on anyone's opinion but your own!

The best place to make a decision on what to buy is at your nearest dealer. Hands-on experience is worth more than a thousand opinions. Make sure you go through all of the menus, and all of the manuals. Spend extra time on the memory entry portions, and then try and program the demo units. If you can't do it in the store, how are you going to do it when you get home?

Now is the time to buy accessories. Most dealers (not all) discount accessories if you buy them with the radio. Don't scrimp on extra filters, audible readouts, digital boards, or what ever extra cost accessories are applicable. They make the radio easier to use, and easier to sell when the time comes to upgrade.

I don't like eBay and other on-line auction houses. If you buy a radio sight unseen, you're at the mercy of the seller. While a lot of eBay sellers are honest people, some are not and you cannot tell by reading the reviews.

If you are buying your first radio, don't buy a handheld! They're nice and geeky, but their utility wears off very quickly. Always think about license upgrades when buying. You'll never regret it.

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